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Michal from Poitiers, France
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Thanks Michal, I think he has already asked me for a quote.

All the best,

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May 28, 2015
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Hi,

The company that cuts the parts is named Agibox (name of the boss is Sylvain Cotte). In order to acquire Polyboard, he filled an application to have some money from the region. In fact he can pretend to have 10 % subsidiary help of the total amount. I now work there for two weeks, I was interested of how they work with their CN…

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Michal

May 27, 2015
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Hi Michal,

Thanks for posting your photos, the project looks great!

Can you tell me the name of the company that cut the parts?

Looking forwards to doing another project with you this way.

Now that we have ironed out the nesting parameters it should work even better.

All the best,

Ness

May 26, 2015
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Looks Great

Glad to be of help

Mark

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Nice work, Michal!  Love the look of it!

Christopher

May 24, 2015
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Hello,

I’m back with the project finished. The client is very satisfied. 

The production process worked nicely. I’ve set sub-methods in Polyboard for hinges, sliders and drawers, grooves for back panels, holes for mobile shelves and edging… Ness prepared a nesting (with Optinest I suppose) in panels as the CN company works that way (in attached picture you can see the cut off panel)  The cut was extremely precise and I’ve certainly saved lots of time working this way. As the CN machine was not able to make grooves in panel edge, I’ve made all assembly with my Domino, which is very fast as I don’t need to measure. I could use dowels and cams but that suppose machining each individual part separetely… and the cost would be much higher I suppose.

I made a demonstration for the boss of the Cn company and he was very impressed by the possibilities of Polyboard, they plan to buy a full version of Polyboard… and he contacted Ness for an offer for Polyboard PP. I hope that will work.

In attached files you can see the pictures of the project finished.

Great thank to Mark and Ness for providing their help and guidance through my first project built under Polyboard. 

Cheers,

 

Michal

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Hi Michal,

Pity you didn’t tell me about the 22mm nest, I must of run the last nest with a add panels to list instead of replace.

Sorry about the inconvenience, as you can see this is I’m not used to using Optinest with Polyboard. It should go better the next time round.

Here’s the 3D DXF.

all the best,

Ness

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hi Ness,

sorry for the late answer. The grooving problem and the edging problem were solved. Nevertheless I made by myself the nesting of the 22mm panel as the nesting you provided wasn’t correct. A lot of components in duple. Quite difficult to find out what is where, with 5 panels instead of 3…tiring computer work. Everything is now in machining as the contracting company needed it for monday, I hope there will be no further problem. 

Can you send me the 3d dxf file please?  

April 25, 2015
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Hi Michel,

Thanks for pointing out these errors.

I seem to be having a Windows setup problem on my computer and some software settings are not being saved.

I have regenerated the files with your latest model, I have rechecked the Dxf files that now seem OK.

Can you double check to be sure? 

Sorry about these errors.

Have a good week-end.

All the best, 

Ness 

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Hi Ness,

Thank you for nesting. The CNC machinist told me it should be ok. He will process it normally the next week. 

Nevertheless, before cutting, there are several things I don’t understand in the files you sent. And I will have to modify them before cutting… after will be too late.

1.The 10 mm groove in the sides, top and bottom (for the back panel) stops at 53.59 mm from the edge of the panel. It should stop at 10, as the panels of the box are 18mm thick and the depth of the groove set in polyboard is 8mm. I’ve modified it manually but I’d like yo understand why.

2.There is some problem with the edging I suppose. In the files you sent, for example the 22mm board for facade elements (doors and drawer facades) the hole for the blum hinge should be at 23 mm from the edge. It sure is at 23 mm but the edge of 1mm was not deduced, so it will be at 24 mm after edging. Let’s take another example of the ‘caisson haut double porte’ : when we check the width of the double door (one door is cut at 523.75 x 2 = 1047.5, we put edges 4 x 1mm, we have 1051.5. The slacks shold be 1.5 on the left, 2.5 in the middle and 2.5 on the right = 6.5 mm: 1051.5 + 6.5=  1058mm. It should be 1054. So 4 mm more than needed. I found the same problem of 1 mm in the box parts (18mm panel). I can’t check the 15mm panel as I do not have the dxf file of the whole project.

 

In the 2 pdfs I send, you can see the detail. I also send the polyboard file as I modified the groove for back depth finally to 12 mm instead of 8 mm. If you can change that in the nesting, it would be perfect, otherwise it will stay on 8mm.

And the last: Would you mind sending the dxf file of the whole project as I like to see what I’m doing and keep the possibility of modifying it in cad program.

 

Thanks,

 

Michal

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Hi Michel,

I had made a mistake in the grain direction of the first set of files, hope this set will be OK.

All the best,

Ness

April 24, 2015
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Thank you Ness, 

I’ve send it to CNC company. I hope that it will be ok.

I’ve also noted that in the first version of nesting some pieces were missing (big doors in 22mm panel)… 

Cheers,

Michal

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Hi again,

I have extended the sides and renested.

I have also printed a PDF labels file (-labels) that shows the edging on each part.

Hope this all works for your CNC guys.

All the best,

Ness

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Hi,

I see the modification. Ok for the plinth, it’s better with your solution, nevertheless these plinths will be added at the end of the project. I have made a piece of plinth longer needed. 

For the extension of the sides of Caisson haut portes Vaissellier baubau: in fact the doors as well as upper drawer’s facades will be cut manually (with a plunge saw) at 45° angle. There are no handles on these… and I want the horizontal oak line be apparent between doors and drawer’s facades (that is why the front part of the bottom of this box is in massive oak.) The side is invisible on the right because the wooden oak top will hide it on 28 mm. If you want to see the detail you can look at the vaissellier-baubau3.skp file joined to my first post of this thread. You will also see why there is no plinth on the right side. Thank you anyway for your concern about this project.

I would like to send the file to my CNC machinist asap. Is it possible for you to change the detail of side and make a new nesting for 18mm panel, as it changes a bit.

I’ve also noted that edging doesn’t appear in the documents you sent. It would be nice for the machinist to now which edges have to be done. If it’s possible (and easy for you) I would be grateful. Otherwise I’ll mark them manually.

Thank you once again,

 

Michal 

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Hi again,

Sorry forgot to add it, here it is.

cheers,

Ness

April 23, 2015
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Hi Ness,

Thanks for nesting. I would like to see in project the modifications you’ve made. Can you send it please. 

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Hello Michel,

Here are the nested parts files.

The cutting plans are in the materials sub-folders “xxxx-plc” .

I hope you don’t mind, but I’ve changed slightly your original design.

– I extended the sides of Caisson haut portes Vaissellier baubau to cover the bottom.  

– I added a plinth to the end of Caisson bas biais double porte

– I extended the plinths of the Caisson Tiroir pass the sides to meet the wall and the plinth of the Caisson bas on the right.

Tell me if this is a problem and I’ll redo the files with your original project.

Note that this type of cutting list is good to nest if you machine the parts at the same time.

Otherwise, if the parts are just cut using a cnc or even a manual saw can be quicker and cheaper.

Just a thought….

All the best,

Ness

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Hi Ness,

I’d like to precise some specifications for the nesting for the CNC router. My provider uses a 10mm drill router for panels thicknesses 10-15-18 mm and 18mm drill for panels thickness of 22mm.

All panels dimensions are 3100 x 1530 mm.

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Sorry, this copy is the right one…the difference is in the grain of the panel for the facades (doors and drawers). I forgot to activate the ‘grain’ option. Now it’s done. 

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Hello,

so I’m back with the project modified in some minor details. I’ve made a sub-method for tandem sliders, changed door and drivers slack…

I’d like to ask Ness to make a file with dxf and eventually a nesting for a Weeke CNC machine.

Thanks

Michal 

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