Config Polyboard PP for optinest B-solid|Forum|WOOD DESIGNER

Hi Antony, your order included initial set up of Polyboard. There is no set up session included with purchases of OptiNest.

As Ness said, we have helped a number of clients set up their Biesse. We've also got many clients using our software with their Biesse CNCs who set it up themselves without our help, so it should work very well.

We try to keep our software prices very low, a lot lower than most of the competition in fact, so we have a minimal margin. Some people want CNC set up help, others don't, so it is always an optional extra.

We will do our best to help you with a support pack but we cannot guarantee to solve all issues within 1 hour. For example, you may need to check some settings with Biesse which has a huge range of machines, all a bit different. Even if you need a bit more support, it's well worth it as it costs very little and you'll get your software and machine working properly saving you so much more in the long run.

Hi Antony,

Your DXF files are setup for the example Biesse tool names, you have to change the layer name coding to correspond to the tool set up on our machine.

We have set up several Biesse machines that run with no problem but as this is not something we do on a day to day basis I do not know off hand the exact coding Biesse requires, especially as the exact coding sequence changes from Biesse Works to Bsolid as well as from version to version.

For this reason it's best to see with the Biesse engineers what you have to put in the layer name.

The layer name set up is very simple, and the general coding principles are explained in the Biesse-DXF-doc I attached previously.

For example:

The part outline is set up actually  with "TCHW0B1DP0TNM$EBAU16D$CRC2ID$CONTOUR$".

The section that defines the tool name is the value after 0TNM between the $ signs , $EBAU16D$. In your case this value has to be changed to $12mmrout$.

The <E> and <P> letters are variables that change according to the values set in Polyboard.

To set up the layer name you have to click the layer name edit 3 dots button :

The dialogue box is divided into 2 columns, the Available Items list and the Format list. 

For a fixed text section of the layer name, select the text field and drag and drop the item to the Format list and edit the text.

To add the thickness or another variable drag and drop also to the Format list.

In the layer name the variable names will be replaced with the appropriate symbol.

For the horizontal drilling files you can export directly the CIX files to Bsolid using the BiesseWorks CID-CIX post processor.

Once the tool names set up correctly, this will create a file you can load directly into Bsolid. 

Once in Bsolid you'll have to erase the tool paths that are not required.

However, if you have a nesting cnc machine, to optimise machine time, I'd strongly suggest that you eliminate horizontal drilling and use nesting hardware.

We have nesting hardware that not only eliminates the need for horizontal drilling but also completely hides the cams.

Have a look at this page on our web site:

https://wooddesigner.org/nest-.....-solution/

Hope this is helpful,

Ness

Hi Antony, we received your email discussing the urgency of this issue...that you have the engineers in your workshop now. As Ness said below, you really need to buy a support pack from this page: https://wooddesigner.org/train.....g-service/

We have an estimated 24-48 hour turnaround on the forum. We also offer mini TeamViewer sessions as you know, but these are limited to 15 minutes each to look at a specific problem, not fully setting up your CNC and liaising with Biesse's engineers.

So the forum and these mini TeamViewer sessions are not the way to provide you with support to set up your CNC, especially if you are in a hurry. We can schedule in an hour session as soon as possible if you buy a support pack. In fact, we currently have availability today.

I suggest you go for a 1 hr support pack. Hopefully this is enough, it can be fairly straightforward process. If you need more time, and we need to check settings with Biesse, you may need more help.

Thank you for your understanding in advance.

Hi Antony,

It's not clear to me what the problem is here.

Can you post :

- the Polyboard file 

- the Post processor Optinest-par Bsolid DXF output

- the Optinest file and the DXF cutting nested parts output

Please also specify the tool numbers and eventually rotation and feed rates, used for each operation:

- Out line

-Vertical drilling

- Inner tooling

- Tooling Edges

thanks 

Ness

Hi Antony,

If you have installed the Quick Design  libraries in Polyboard you should have in the list of post processors that include the Optinest output for Bsolid.

These are named "Optinest-par-Bsolid" and "Optinest-par-Bsolid2".

These are example post processors for Bsolid that you can configure according to your machine set up.

Bsolid, like BiesseWorks uses the layer names generated by Polyboard to apply automatic tool paths to the geometry of a DXF file.

As you can see from the examples, all layer names must start with TCH, the face of the part is defined by the code W, etc. Variables for depth, diameter, etc, can be inserted by clicking the ... button and adding them to the list.

They then appear in the layer name as for depth, for thickness, etc. these will be replaced by the depth and thickness values as defined by your Polyboard project.

The exact syntax is given in the Biesse document I have attached. This is the document for BiesseWorks so Bsolid may have changed slightly the syntax. You should be able to get the updated syntax from your machine documents or ask directly from Biesse.

We have set this up for several clients and there have not been problems once correctly set up.

Your Biesse engineer should have no trouble setting this up for you if necessary.

If you or your Biesse engineer need help doing this please consider buying some support hours from our Support page here:

https://wooddesigner.org/train.....service/ 

Hope this is helpful, all the best,

Ness