Wood Designer forum
October 4, 2012
The vertical position of the holes is defined with the “Rule”.
You must make a rule using the Rules library.
Add a new rule by clicking the + button and set Type to Single.
To position the row of holes vertically, you will be referencing the drawer facade.
If you choose Rule Direction as conventional , you define a distance from the top edge, Reverse defines a distance from the bottom and Center a distance from the middle.
Set the Reference to Overpassing (drawer facade).
Set the Offset to the distance from the reference edge (defined by the rule direction).
This way everytime you apply a drawer using the method the holes will automatically be marked on your parts.
If you want send me a dimensioned sketch of the drawer sliders you wan to set up with the exact position of the holes and I’ll shoot you a video and send you a model.
If you send me the list of the hardware you usually use I’ll set up some standard libraries for you to use.
All the best,
Ive watched the video on the drawers slide that you linked to. Ive set up a fittings rule etc no probs. The video seems to miss out any detail about a fittings ‘rule’ although you do refer to it near the end of the video as a unique rule. Can you elaborate more on this as its stumped me. Also, whilst the video shows how to put the holes etc on the vertical parts of the drawer boxes and inside the carcase it doesnt reference the horizontal positioning of the holes on the drawer boxes and the carcase? Perhaps this is to do with the rule?
Can you help
Ive cut and pasted all your advice to my computer in case I cant get the software to play ball and its good to know how to do things the traditional way so thanks again.
I was hoping to bypass all the maths using the software but I guess its going to take a bit of time for me ‘personally’ to get to that stage. Not giving up though. Will have another go tomorrow.
I’m 33, pretty computer savvy on the whole, first hammered a nail in at 3 apparently, been working in this game solidly since about 13 when I worked all holiday with Dad, did the same when I left school and have done ever since. I have learned a different way of doing things and processes so dont feel alone regarding time v’s money as I’m finding it very hard to fully switch over mainly due to the time it takes to learn this stuff and the fact I can do it pretty efficently the old way. Add into that the fact building is booming right now and its tough.
Plus side is at the moment we are pricing / cahrging 30% more than a year ago and people cant say yes fast enough. Downside is that theres so much to do its a balancing act of volume of work, efficiency and quality. I’m doing more or less 15 hour days 5 days a week plus a normal day on sat and trying to recover on sun.
No worries Terry, trust me I have learnt all this the long and hard way
The other way to do it is take the total of the box the drawers are going into say its 600mm.
Add the total hight size of the drawer boxes together (Say 2 at 200 1 at 150) total 550
take the 550 away from the 600 and divide by 4 = 12.5mm gap between each drawer and the base and top ox the box that holds them.
if you fit the runners to the bottom of the drawer box as you normally do and its a 50 mm high runner then the middle of the runner is 25mm off the base.
then you can just add up the sizes working from the bottom so the gaps would be as bellow.
462.5mm up mid of top runner (12.5 + 200+12.5 +200+37.5)
250mm up mid of next runner (12.5+200+37.5)
37.5mm up mid of first runner
bottom of drawer box
Some very good help there…..i’d never really thought of that to be honest and will try to put it into practice. I’d always put the runners flush with the bottom of the drawer and always really struggled working things out inside the cab. This is a 40 year old who has mainly fitted pre planned/made kitchens, plastered, tiled and painted…..as you can tell.
Im dont think I can work out how to do it all on polyboard, i do struggle with the hardware/fittings side of things. Im hoping eventually someone will come up with templates etc until then I will probably muddle through as im spending more time learning the software as I am making things and earning money!
Thanks Jim and Ness
Thats a good idea about a template Jim……one I will remember. My problem though lies in the vertical positioning of the runner holes on multiple drawers inside the carcase and I was wondering how other people work that out and/or if polyboard offers help in that respect?
I used to use another programme which is now defunct. Whilst it was incredibly limited compared to polyboard it was superb at drawer runners and even gave exact ‘heights’ of where to put the holes. The horizontal spacing is easy its just the vertical spacing I struggle with.
Heres how i would do it.
With polyboard i think you could set up a drilling profile for that runner, just work it out in real life first then you could input that drilling profile into the drawers and it should show where they need to be?
How I would do it normally would be as follows.
Say 3 drawers in a 800 high space. Fit the runners in the mid of each drawer box. Divide the hight of the box the drawers go in by 4 (the amount of spaces in between the runners) = 200
every 200 vertical will be the middle of the runner. simple!
We normally cut a bit of 6mm mdf the whole size of the side the runners will fix to, drill it in the right places then you have a horizontal and vertical template for that job. Takes a few mins.
If you have the same 800 hight space, but want 2 deep drawers and one small do it as follows, total hight inc gap of 2 big drawers 700 ( assume both drawers are same size) divide by 3 = 233 middle of runners. smaller top drawer will fit in the 100 mm space above and be 50mm down from the top to the middle of runner.
Again easy to make a jig to center the runner on the drawer box.