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April 30, 2020 - 4:44 pm
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Hi Tom,

Sorry to get back to you so late.

The developer team has fixed this bug so ticking the “Ignore Links for nil panels” option will erase the outer mortise:

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Hope this is helpful,

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Hi Tom, unfortunately Ness is temporarily away from work at the moment due to personal reasons. It’s probably best he answers as he is leading on this issue with the developer team. If we have any more information before he’s back, we’ll let you know. Sorry for the delay in replying.

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April 21, 2020 - 10:45 pm
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Hi Ness,

I hope you are well?

I am just wanting to see if there has been any developments/ fixes regarding the issue of fitting links being placed twice? I am still getting this problem and its getting very frustrating when applying or changing a fitting link that all the fittings in the face frame get added both to the front and the back.

I have noticed that Polyboard seems to allow a change or a fitting link to be applied once without adding the link twice. However if a further change is made then the link is applied twice. I have attached a recent cabinet to see what you think.

A further issue often encountered is when changing the material style. When doing so any single panel fittings are removed and have to be re-applied. Can this be avoided?

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Tom

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November 22, 2019 - 6:12 am
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Hi Tom,

I’ve asked the developers to look again into this.

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Hi Ness,

So on first test it seemed to be sorted. However I now realise I am getting inconsistent results. The cabinet I have attached is a typical kitchen cabinet with a faceframe. It currently has a single fiiting link set for the faceframe (doubleback). If I then apply or re-apply the fitting link sub-method I can end up with some parts unchanged, others with 2 links front and back , and some with 2 links to both the back. 

Any thoughts?

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Hi Tom,

The developers have done a lot of bug fixing and I’m not 100% sure that they checked this.

I’ve tested the latest version 7.02c. and it seems to work OK.

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Can you verify yourself and keep me updated?

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Hi Ness,

Has there been any developments regarding the potential bug that creates two hardware elements instead of one?

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Hi Tom,

This seems to be another bug.

The sub method seems to apply 2 hardware elements one called back and the other front.

You can see this when you open the fitting link properties:

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If you erase the “Front” link it leaves the correct connection.

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I’ve asked the developers to look into this.

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Hi Ness,

Cabinet attached

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Hi Tom,

Can you post the cabinet?

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Thanks Ness, 

That’s looking to work well, thank you. 

I have applied a fixing link for biscuits on the face frame. when applying it as a sub method the link is coming through as 2, applying to both the front and back face of the face frame. Any thoughts?

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Hi Tom, 

Polyboard has been updated with the bug fixed.

Please download the latest version from the downloads page.

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Hi Ness,

Does the bug you encountered cause this method not to work? I have tried what you suggested but don’t get the results i’m looking for..

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Hi Tom,

To avoid this don’t groove the rail into the Top just make it overpassing.

However I noticed a bug when the overpassing panel is overlapping with a value greater that the height of the lateral zone.

I’ve told the developer team and they will be releasing a fixed version in the coming days.

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Sorry model and drawing attached this time…

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Hi Ness,

I have attached both the model and the printout. 

Because the method involves grooving the double back (faceframe) into the 0.5mm external zone, when applying a recess the 0.5mm external zone then comes through to the frontage by the amount of the recess (1mm) each side.

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Hi Tom,

I’m not sure what you mean here, can you send a couple of drawings or models to explain?

Or if you want we can do a quick Team Viewer session?

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Hi Ness,

Using the external zone method as you have described seemed to work well. And probably does if you don’t apply a recess and an overlap as I need to for the faceframe (something we did in training). The result when printing out the drawings is the top piece is dimensioned to the cabinet width plus the faceframe. The rest of the cabinet is dimensioned correctly. If I take away the recess and overlap then all pieces are dimensioned correctly. 

Any thoughts?

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Hi Tom,

As all facade elements continue to reference the actual carcass and not the front frame the slack values will always have to be adjusted to the actual frame positions.

You can set up all these values to come in automatically in the Doors and Drawers sub-methods.

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So I have increased the value of the top reference from 10 to 30mm. This give the drawer sides enough clearance. The drawer frontage is however still too high and referencing to the cabinet and not the face frame. So I give the drawer frontage a recess value of 24mm from the top. This looks to work. However how can this be set up as a manufacturing method?

I have also tried this with doors and obviously the same problem occurs. 

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