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Help with some things
July 18, 2014
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Hi Terry,

You have to use the drawer elements link to the top:

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Using ManuMethods use the link to the drawer Top too:

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Ness

July 18, 2014
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Hi there

Has anyone got any idea how to edge the exposed (top) pieces of drawer box components. I’ve worked out how to do the applied front but after a few experiments can’t seem to figure the other bits

 

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July 17, 2014
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Hats off to you Ness.

Im glad I’ve only got to do all this once!

The next wardrobe on a flat wall will be a 15 minute design breeze now I’ve got a decent template setup

And as time is money thats a great thingLaugh

Cheers

July 17, 2014
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Hi everyone,

As promised click here for my idea on kick frames and plinths.

Love to have your ideas too.

All the best,

Ness

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July 17, 2014
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Ness looking at your reply made me double check the project from the underside. Well I havent done it properly! The applied plinth should be recessed 28mm LOL and its just snapped to the front! Anyway what I done was just create a cabinet from 12mm material added a double back 0 from the back and then got rid of all the other components. Then I took the measuring tool and measured the gap between the end deco panels and adjusted the cab to that size and dropped it in.

there was me thinking I am the clever one!……got alot to learn

I’ll wait for you video and see if that sheds any light

best

 

Terry

July 17, 2014
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Hi Terry,

Good to see that you have got around the plinth setup .

Love to know how you did it.

I’m uploading a video to show one way I’d do it and I’ll post the link as soon as it’s ready.

We’ve had some great tips and ideas from Jimbouk and Mark today so I’d also like to thank everyone who has participated in this project because I’m convinced that it’s by putting our brains together that we can move faster and better and most of all make life and work more enjoyable and rewarding. So big thanks to everyone!

Video is still uploading……

All the best,

Ness

July 17, 2014
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Had some great help on here today spent a good few hours learning quite a bit on the software. thanks again. I managed to get one part of the job planned out and even managed to figure out the pesky applied front. I think the software is finally sinking in and Ness the 2 videos you shot for me today were among your best yet.

Cheers

Ill change the colours on the drobe later they were just for my benefit so i could see what I was doing.

Oh and Stefan cheers for the tip on that jing software…..i can’t  stop using it….. great bit of kit lol …

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Thanks for doing this Ness  and thanks everyone else for their input. Hopefully eventually I will  be able to help other newer membersLaugh

July 17, 2014
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Hi Terry,

As promised, click here for the video on Edging with manufacturing methods.

Ness

July 17, 2014
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Works very well Ness. Ive set up a few different types now for different types of work, alcoves, modular, and free standing.

To save me the aggro of working it out. Is there a easy way to do the kickframe applied front which goes on after?

 

Cheers

 

terry

July 17, 2014
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Thank you everyone

I would never have worked that out!

Terry

July 17, 2014
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Hello everyone,

It’s great to see everyone taking time to help Terry.

Thanks to all.

I’ve just shot this video to show how to set up the kick frames that cabs snap to with overlap.

So hope this is helpful.

I’m uploading another video to show how to manage the edging, so should be up in an hour or 2.

To get the cutting lists to add extra width and length you can use the Over Sizing options:

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Ness

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Hi Terry

Heres your 25mm rebate plinth.

It will clip to any unit with the back flush and the front, left and right showing a 25mm recess.

Just adjust the model to the exact size of your unit above and it will work.

Download 25mm-rebate-plinth.pb-cab

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July 17, 2014
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terry said
Hi Ness

Ive got a project coming up in August and Im working on the plans right now. The project is 3 separate items of bedroom furniture

A wardrobe, a triple set of drawers fitted under a sloping ceiling and a vanity unit/dressing table with drawers underneath. Im pretty keen on using the polyboard to its full potential on this work including all the hardware, edgbanding and drillings etc and I would like later on to possibly present this work in sketchup if can find the time to learn some basic funtions of it.

Ive attached the cab file so perhaps when you have time you can help me with some it. A lot of what I do is the same type of work so Ive set myself a target to get some decent cabinets/wardrobes etc set up properly so I can eventually just use them as templates for myself. I’ll hopefully just need to change dimensions etc.

First question. I made a kickframe as a separate carcass hoping that it could be re-usuable. I imported it into the project mode along with the main wardrobe carcasses and some deco end panels. Ive managed finally to get it all to clip onto each other etc and got all the end panels set up correctly. I normally make my kickframes around 25mm smaller all round than the footprint of the carcasses. This allows me a little wiggle room and helps me avoid skirting boards etc. When I drag the main carcasses onto the kickframe it snaps to the front. I dont want this…..I want the front of the carcass to be in front of the kickframe by approx 20mm. When the doors are added this gives me a recess on the front of around 40mm. I then add a small ‘scribed’ piece over the top of the kickframe which takes care of any uneven flooring. This planted over piece can be 6mm or 12mm doesnt really matter it fits between the 2 deco end panels and thus covers the kickframe and its joinery.

Second question 

Ive made the deco end panels @ 586mm x 2000mm which is the carcass depth plus 18mm door depth and this height covers the total height of the plinth and carcase plus an additonal 18mm so it goes up and meets the top deco panel. For presentation purposes to the client this is perfect but in real life i would cut the depth and height say 5mm bigger to allow for out of plumb etc to the wall and the floor so I could scribe these to fit. Can I oversize these panels without effecting the presentation?

Final question sorry and I know you covered it to some degree in a video but i couldn’t figure it out. If you open the doors on the wardrobe and wanted to apply 6mm edging to ALL the edges that ‘you see’ on the inside of the carcase and all 4 sides of both doors what the best way to do this quickly.

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Hi Terry,

 

Cant help with the others but for the kicker i think if you remove the front then add a double back set back what you want from the front it should clip on the right way then.

Ps are you interested in doing a bit of work for me in london? Drop me a line if so, im way to busy and could use an extra pair of hands.

Jim

July 16, 2014
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Having problems uploading the ph proj file. Will try again

July 16, 2014
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Hi Ness

Ive got a project coming up in August and Im working on the plans right now. The project is 3 separate items of bedroom furniture

A wardrobe, a triple set of drawers fitted under a sloping ceiling and a vanity unit/dressing table with drawers underneath. Im pretty keen on using the polyboard to its full potential on this work including all the hardware, edgbanding and drillings etc and I would like later on to possibly present this work in sketchup if can find the time to learn some basic funtions of it.

Ive attached the cab file so perhaps when you have time you can help me with some it. A lot of what I do is the same type of work so Ive set myself a target to get some decent cabinets/wardrobes etc set up properly so I can eventually just use them as templates for myself. I’ll hopefully just need to change dimensions etc.

First question. I made a kickframe as a separate carcass hoping that it could be re-usuable. I imported it into the project mode along with the main wardrobe carcasses and some deco end panels. Ive managed finally to get it all to clip onto each other etc and got all the end panels set up correctly. I normally make my kickframes around 25mm smaller all round than the footprint of the carcasses. This allows me a little wiggle room and helps me avoid skirting boards etc. When I drag the main carcasses onto the kickframe it snaps to the front. I dont want this…..I want the front of the carcass to be in front of the kickframe by approx 20mm. When the doors are added this gives me a recess on the front of around 40mm. I then add a small ‘scribed’ piece over the top of the kickframe which takes care of any uneven flooring. This planted over piece can be 6mm or 12mm doesnt really matter it fits between the 2 deco end panels and thus covers the kickframe and its joinery.

Second question 

Ive made the deco end panels @ 586mm x 2000mm which is the carcass depth plus 18mm door depth and this height covers the total height of the plinth and carcase plus an additonal 18mm so it goes up and meets the top deco panel. For presentation purposes to the client this is perfect but in real life i would cut the depth and height say 5mm bigger to allow for out of plumb etc to the wall and the floor so I could scribe these to fit. Can I oversize these panels without effecting the presentation?

Final question sorry and I know you covered it to some degree in a video but i couldn’t figure it out. If you open the doors on the wardrobe and wanted to apply 6mm edging to ALL the edges that ‘you see’ on the inside of the carcase and all 4 sides of both doors what the best way to do this quickly.

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