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Help with using Polyboard to create my products
January 28, 2016
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Stefan

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Great, I’ve set that up for you and Ness. Click here for a very quick and easy way to download TeamViewer:

https://wooddesigner.org/teamvi…..er-set-up/

January 28, 2016
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I could do around 4pm tomorrow UK time, i’ll see about downloading TeamViewer later.

January 28, 2016
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Hi Daniel,

As Stefan said I think that you will require some one to one coaching to discuss exactly what you need, the compromises that would be possible and show how to set your projects up properly.

The best would be for me to show you using Team Viewer.

Can you tell me when would be a convenient time for you?

All the best,

Ness

January 27, 2016
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Hi Daniel, just send us an message here or email with your availability for a meeting on Skype. If you haven’t got Skype, we can do it using TeamViewer.

Send us your Skype ID and a phone number as well. All the best, Stefan

January 27, 2016
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Thanks Ness, but how do i start making a frame the correct way? 

As i’ve found  nothing to tell me that and i don’t want to do it the “hard” way a i’ve had a go myself so would like some tips on how to set up a frame. It’s a shame about the angled reinforcements as they are a must. 

January 26, 2016
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Hi Daniel,

Thanks for all this information.

To make a frame and clad it with another material is very easy in Polyboard. We can use several methods depending on how we want to manipulate or build the project.

One way is to first break a panel up into 2 thickness with the “Structure>Thickness split” command.

Then make one thickness the frame using “Structure>Assembly” commands and then change the cladding material.

The frame can be made in bar material and I would suggest that the cladding be made with a panel material that has an appropriate image file to it. This will enable Polyboard to give you the correct surface area of board or wire mesh for the project.

This is a simple box set up like this:

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The box can be resized and the direct of the cladding changed at will:

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If I slope the top and add a framed plinth we can build a hutch :

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You can work either with panels that you adapt to a specific size or assemble standard sized panels.

How do you assemble the panels together, are the frames screwed and the cladding overlapping ?

From the photos on your web site the only problem I see you having with Polyboard is the angled reinforcements:

Adding these in Polyboard is possible but not very easy as it requires adding frame within frames.

An easier way to set these up for a 3D presentation might be to export into Sketchup.

We can set up the hardware if necessary and Polyboard will produce the correct cutting lists and hardware lists.

I attach a workshop document of this model with the cutting list as an example.

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I hope this is helpful. If you would like to talk we could arrange a skype meeting to show you how to set all this up.

all the best,

Ness 

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January 26, 2016
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Thanks, Daniel. I’ll share with Ness and we’ll see what we can put together to help you with the set up in Polyboard. All the best, Stefan

January 26, 2016
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Hi Stefan,

I’ll try and help you sure, a frame is made by using the following:

Head Plate (top), Sole Plate (bottom) and Studs (uprights).

That is a basic frame, some panels have more studs and other pieces to create the panel.

I’ve attached two images, first is just the frame and the second one is a door frame panel for hutch, like the one i posted below.

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We screw the panels together and use nails to create the frame, so the hutch shown is made like this:

Front Panel with two doors, two side panels, back panel, floor panel and then a roof panel.

Depending on how large the hutch/product is, there maybe two front panels, two back panels, two roof panels and two floor panels.

All the products are made the same no matter the size, it’s just a frame with either tongue and groove cladding, Perspex or mesh put on top.

We mainly just use butt joints that are nailed or screwed. Mainly nailed but some times we have to screw due to a knot.

Hardware: Decking screws, stainless steel screws, framing nails, Brenton bolts, tee hinges, stainless steel butt hinges etc

Materials: Scandinavian Whitewood 34x45mm, Redwood 85x12mm and Redwood 12×112 PTGVJ1S.

Does this help?

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January 25, 2016
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Please find below notes from Ness on this subject…

Polyboard has been designed firstly for cabinets but it has a lot of functionality that you can use to design sheds, hutches or anything built from flat materials so I’m sure it will be useful to you.

Although very simple to use, I will have to show you and guide you through the specific functionality to do this.

It’s very easy to add your own hardware, including hinges, screws etc. Hardware can be placed manually onto boards or automatically according to certain placement rules.

Hardware positions including screws and nails can be drawn automatically onto the production plans.

Once set up Polyboard can reduce design time from hours to a few minutes, while making the whole production process much more efficient and error free.

And this is true whether you build by hand or CNC.

Although Polyboard works with panels it can divide each panel into separate boards and / or framing.

This make for a very easy way to design sheds, doors and windows etc.

Here’s an example of a shed that I threw together for you in a couple of minutes.

You can see that the cutting list, production drawings, prices and CNC files are produced automatically:

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It’s easy to change the design in a couple of clicks and get completely new cutting lists, drawings and even CNC file all ready for manufacturing.

Here’s the same shed redesigned in about a minute:

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Cutting lists can be panels or divided into trimber boards or framed and panel doors, etc.

Ness has taken a look at your website. Can you also explain here in more depth how you make your products so he can shoot a video and if necessary arrange an on-line demo to walk you through the design process.

All the best, Stefan

January 24, 2016
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Hi there, Ness asked me to post my products on here so that you can help me use Polyboard to design my products.

All my products are created in the same way, i create a frame, then add boards to it, so for a hutch it will have a front panel, back panel, floor panel and roof panel. Sheds, kennels, runs, and so on all created in the same way just more panels and other material. 

Images are on the link here: BoylesJoinery/slideshow/Hutch so you can see one and hopefully help me learn how to design it.

Thanks

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