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library set up pack
June 29, 2016
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June 28, 2016
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Hi Ness,

Brilliant thanks, i have had a look at the link and it says “file not there anymore” could you have a look and let me know,

Great thursday 5pm is good for me, ill make sure im home and ready

I machined my first cabinet today from polyboard – optinest-cnc  using all the auto toolpathing i created and went well, i did however have a cpl of minor adjustments to do from my design before making the rest of them ……..which where…..

output net dimensions instead of overall dimensions from polyboard

i got a small lead in from the cutter on inner tooling i didn’t want

i had 2 hardware holes 2mm away i should of picked up on when toolpathing the job

My back was set in 10mm in more than i wanted

but overall was pleased and good learning, its quite a weird experience as my whole woodworking life i have measured piece by piece and worked out in my head but today was press the go button and hope its right so can get abit sweaty hot and freezing cold at the same time

June 28, 2016
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Hi Dean,

I’ve set up some new Quick Design  libraries that include some methods and hardware I’ve set up for you.

Could you use this link to download and install them :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ay3aupluzve5djx/installPolyboard-QD-en.exe?dl=0

Once you’ve installed them can we meet up thursday at 5pm your time to see how you can start working with them.

cheers,

Ness

June 27, 2016
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Hi Ness,

Thanks for the reply, i have attached a cpl of jobs i have going on at the min but in general have been holding off creating cabinets libary and mainy just played about with features until i was fully to grips with the whole library structure.

i haven’t really used rafix that much unless cncing a project so for 90% of my working life have used screws /buiscuits / pocket screws / glue / grooves /tenons so am really exploring the best quality and most efficient using the cnc.

i have some topslide runners in the workshop so will measure up hole spacing and take pics tomorrow at work, im fairly confident they a generic hole spacings and possibly the same as hettich ones but will check.

I am home from work at 5pm every day this week so which ever day is best for you just let me know

Many Thanks

Dean

June 27, 2016
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Hi Dean,

Thanks for this information.
I’m setting up your libraries within a new standard Quick Design  library that I’m just finishing.
I’ll send you a copy to check today or tomorrow.
You can check them through and we can organise a meetting sometime this week to talk about them.

For your idea of using MiniFix and dowel, in your position I would try to avoid doing this. You would be loosing all the benefits of nested production. Although this would work on small projects with a small number of parts, if you are looking to optimise production on larger projects or optimise workflow, the manual handling of each panel is only adding extra time without significant advantages and this can be easily avoided.

One must keep in mind that what takes time in production is moving material. Manually taking the parts of the machine and handling them 2 to 4 times for edge drilling is going to significantly increase the production time when there are a lot of parts. 

For MiniFix & dowel assembly you’d should cut the parts on a saw and then CNC the parts one by one, cutting will be faster and the each part will only have to be handled once to put it on the CNC. Calibration and drilling will be done in one operation on the CNC without moving the part, this is much faster and more accurate than doing it by hand, (but slower than nesting for small to medium sized production).

Can you also send me the specs of the Topslide runners and a few of the projects you are going to build and I can test the libraries on them?

cheers,
Ness
June 23, 2016
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Hi Ness,

Here is some further info you requested to start on my libary set up pack…i will give abit of thought and divide cabinet sub methods into a few catagories to make it more straightforward,

Im Sure when we do a walk through via skype / teamviewer i will get the hang of making manufacturing methods and be able to do some myself.

Can you give me more details on:

– the way you build drawers and the sliders you use………….

for bedrooms i use 18mm sides / 8mm bottom and standard roller runners

For kitchens i have been buying in  soft close systems made by topslide

– the model of wall hangers you  generally use…….

http://www.hafele.co.uk/shop/p…..74324/9784

– the model of the sliders you use for sliding doors

I have been using these mostly http://www.toolstation.com/sho…..ear/p37979

I allso use hafele and looking into buying from hettich but will tackle that later

– do you have any standards for  positioning for hardware

This can vary or the type of fixings used , i generally work to suit the job in hand

At the moment i use whatever fixings needed to suit the job but going forward i am leaning towards screwing wherever possible and using rafix / hettich where needed,

I also like the idea of using mini fix with a 6mm dowel 50mm each side then i can make a drilling jig and do the horizontal boring by hand fairly quickly, what do you think of this ??

Hope this is a help, looking forward to getting set up and start building a cabinet libary

Many thanks

Dean

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