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October 22, 2018
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Hi Grover,

There seems to be some confusion here.

If you  are asking how to cut only panels using Optinest, this must be done on a nesting machine.

If you use a P2P machine you don’t need Optinest and Polyboard will output the machine file directly for the machine in tcn for Vitap, cid/cix Biesse, mpr for Homag, pgm, for SCM, etc.

DXF would be used for other machines in this case you will need CAM software like Vcarve and the process would be the same as for Optinestt

Using P2P you need to cut the panels before putting them on the cnc. For this you shoud use a panel or cnc saw and Opticut.

https://wooddesigner.org/opticut-software/

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Ness

October 20, 2018
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Hello Ness,

Sorry for the confusion. My boss said he’s asking about PTP router and not on nesting. Is this possible as well?

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Grover

October 19, 2018
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Hi Grover,

On the Polyboard output page, 

https://wooddesigner.org/support/polyboard-videos/output/

Have a look at these videos:

– Polyboard to CNC Solution, an example of using Vcarve with Polyboard and Optinest 

-Using Polyboard with Alphacam, an example of using AlphaCam with Polyboard DXF files

You can see from both examples that using Polyboard DXF files with these CAM packages there is practically no manual manipulation of the Polyboard out put needed.

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October 18, 2018
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Hello Ness,

My boss wanna ask if you could give us a video sample for this? Because TPA-TCN CAD can’t do this automatically.

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Grover.

October 18, 2018
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Hi Grover,

If you use Vcarve or similar CAM you don’t have to remove anything, it’s all automatic.

You just open the Optinest file in Vcarve apply tool template and send to CNC.

There is no work and no manipulation of the files just click 3 buttons.

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October 18, 2018
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Hello Ness,

My boss said that if we are going to remove outline one by one on CAM, it would cost us a lot of time. Do we have other way to achieve this without removing the machining on Polyboard?

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Grover

October 17, 2018
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Hi again,

With most professional CAM software you can set up automatic tool pathing selecting only the elements you need to machine. In this case you just load the Optinest file and create the machine file.

We sell Vcarve for this, see here:

https://wooddesigner.org/vcarve-pro-software/

Vcarve is a very powerful CAM solution that integrates easily with Optinest for a very reasonable price.

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Ness

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Hi Ness,

Does this include removing grooves and other tooling? Is it easy to ignore machining or do we need to set it on each panel one by one on the cam software? Can you suggest a software for this?

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October 17, 2018
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Hi again,

Yes it’s very easy to use Optinest for cutting. You can either just tool path the outlines and ignore the machining in the CAM software or create a Polyboard method that eliminates the machining before exporting to Optinest.

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October 17, 2018
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Hello Ness,

My boss said wants OptiNest for calibration cut only. Without drilling and grooving operation. Is this easy to set things?

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Grover

October 17, 2018
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Hi Grover,

Nesting is slower cutting panels than sawing. It’s main advantage is that it machines and cuts in the same operation without manual intervention. This enable the general manufacturing process to be around 30% faster that sawing and then sorting parts and putting them individually onto a CNC for machining.

This makes nesting much more efficient for small to medium volume production.

For high volumes with a lot of repeat tooling,  it’s faster to saw and machine.

If you need perfectly cut panels when using sawing and machining production, you should use over sizing and a calibration cut on the cnc.

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Hello Ness,

We need to edge all sides of the panel. Some hardware fittings require routing 120mm deep on the side of the panel. We only want nesting to have a perfect square.

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Grover

October 17, 2018
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Hi Grover,

Please note that Optinest only produces cutting maps in DXF output so you have to tool path these in a CAM software.

This said it’s perfectly feasible to output only the outlines and have files without tooling. On the other hand I don’t see the advantage over cutting with a saw and using Opticut.

Why do you want to use Optinest to cut panels without machining?

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I think that Ness can probably better inform you than me about this solution

 

Can we follow up Ness for this one, please?

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Grover

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Hello Alex,

My boss wanna ask if this is possible for OptiNest? Can we remove vertical drilling and grooving and leave OptiNest just for cutting panels? Hoping for your prompt reply.

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Grover

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Hi,

Polyboard can not yet separate these 2 operations on its own for this particular request

It will work in two stages with different post-processor configurations.

1st step export the files in a first folder with the option to give previously “outline > ignore”
here to call “TPA_CN_OT_IGNR”

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2nd steps
-Create a 2nd post-processor with the option “outline > export” by duplicating the post processor to keep the other configuration identical that we will call “TPA_CN_OT_EXP” for example

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-Remove fixing links by selecting all cabinet in project mode and apply sub-method with NIL link

Or just apply this NIL sub-methodes link in single cabinet mode

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-export to a new folder with the post processor creates previously “TPA_CN_OT_EXP”

But this solution don’t separate grooves,

Or using Opticut with Post-Pro export?!

I think that Ness can probably better inform you than me about this solution

Hope it’s help you

All the best, Alex

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D-Alexandre said
Hi Grover,

You want to have outline command without Tooling in a separte program?


Hello Alex,

Yes please, we need outline command for cutting squares and a separate one(tooling) for grooves and boring.

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July 9, 2018
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Hi Grover,

You want to have outline command without Tooling in a separte program?

or

First with it and second without?

All the best, Alex

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Ness said
Hi Grover,

I don’t know TPACAD either, but if the line of code is the outline of the panel you can delete it by setting the “Export whole outline” option the PP options to “Ignore”.

Best regards,

Ness  

Hi Ness,

Would it be possible for Polyboard to separate the outline command?

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Grover

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Hello Ness,

The problem is solved. Thanks for your help.

Grover,

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