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October 4, 2012
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Hi David,
Although I don't have the details of your stairwell, I've check quickly your stairs in an approximate SketchUp mockup and it seems that you have easy enough headroom.
I attach the SketchUp model and your working DXF files .
You can load the DXF files into a CAD program and print them full size to get templates.
If you need a free CAD program you can use Draftsight that you can download from the members software resources page here:
https://wooddesigner.org/membe.....raftsight/
With Draftsight, you can also add dimensions to the parts.
Good luck with the building, and keep us updated as to how it goes.
All the best,
Ness
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David ffrench
November 28, 2014
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Hi Ness
Sorry that wasn't very clear. The stair well is already built. I've got the sketchup files you sent through into the as built sketchup model fine. The problem is that' with stairs 2 designed as it is, the clearance over the RHS of step is 1882mm and on the LHS its 1978mm so I need to find 118mm from somewhere. I wondered if you had any tricks for adjusting the parameters of the stair which would either put step 6 further along or lower it down somehow to avoid the clearance issue. Because of the limitations of using the free version of StairDesigner its very difficult for me to check the impact of changes on clearance.
Anyway I need to get cracking with actually building this so I've decided to deal with the clearance issue by adjusting the stairwell once the stair is built and installed.
To this end could please provide me with manufacturing drawings for the attached files. I have check and rechecked my measurements. I would appreciate it if you could do this at your earliest convenience.
If you could also send me sketchup files of these revised designs that would be appreciated
Many thanks for your continued assistance
David
October 4, 2012
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Hi Dave,
Not sure what you mean by getting the stair to come in under a pinch point.
If you mean how to get it into place in a SketchUp drawing, the stair comes in as a component and you can pick it up on a corner of the last step and clip it to the landing.
All the best,
Ness
November 28, 2014
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Hi Ness,
many thanks for that. It was worth checking....I'm 118mm short on step 6. It's fine either side and I'll be able to make some of the difference up by changing the building. However are there any neat tricks you can suggest for getting a stair to come in under a pinch point?
Much appreciated
David
October 4, 2012
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Hi Dave,
Here are your stairs in SketchUp.
All the best,
Ness
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David ffrenchNovember 28, 2014
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Thanks Stefan.
Ness if you are still able to export the .skp files that would be very much appreciate. That way I can check if I need to do a rethink or not before I go any further.
Many thanks
David
November 8, 2013
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The StairFile Pro service costs £95. It takes a couple of days to turn round normally, but could be longer if there is extra info we need from you.
That said, Ness is just finishing off training some clients this week, so might be a little longer if you request it straight away.
For more info on the differences between the StairFile Pro and Lite click here: https://wooddesigner.org/stair.....e-service/
Once logged in as a Full member, you can order StairFile Pro from this page: https://wooddesigner.org/membe.....discounts/
All the best...
November 28, 2014
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Ah thank you! Very helpful
I've already got a full model of the house in sketchup so this would be perfect. Please see attached both staircases.
Also you mentioned your stair file pro service in an earlier response. How much is this and how long does it take?
Many thanks
David
October 4, 2012
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Hi Dave,
The headroom control is not available in the demo version.
The best way to control headroom in complex situations is to export the stairs into a SketchUp model.
Have a look at this video:
https://wooddesigner.org/membe.....ex-stairs/
If you post your Stair Designer models,
I'll send you back the SketchUp files.
All the best,
Ness
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David ffrenchNovember 28, 2014
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Thanks Ness
Right I've got both stairs designed now and incorporated the changes you made. One last thing I need to do is check the head room for the 2nd stair as there is a pinch point I'm not totally confident about. When I scroll through the step dimensions it just says Demo. Is there a way I could get the step dimensions to assist me? Or an export into my Sketchup model?
I've looked though your tutorial and forum but can't find anything about head room. I looked at the head room modul on SD but I don't thin it applie in my situation, I'm dealing with a sloping roof albeit only 7deg.
Many thanks
David
October 4, 2012
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Hi Dave,
You can set the first flight to 1000mm if you want, I just thought that 800mm everywhere gave a bit more going and a less steep stair.
Just tweak your design to what you want and post the final project here when you want us to send you the working documents.
all the best,
Ness
November 8, 2013
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Hi David,
I'll let Ness reply to your design query, but as far as getting the docs goes, Ness meant let us know when your design is finished and attach a final version of your .sds file to this forum thread for us to process.
All the best,
Stefan
November 28, 2014
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Dear Ness
Many thanks for this, took a while but got the 3D view working now. SD needed DirectlyPlay as well!
I had designed the 1st flight of the 1st stair to be wider than the next two (1000mm then 800mm) but I notice that you have changed this to be 800mm on all 3 flights. Was there a reason for this? I wanted the stair to open out as it enters the room.
With regard to getting manufacturing docs I didn't understand your response. You said just post to the forum...isn't that what I have already done or do you mean somewhere else?
Kind regards
David
October 4, 2012
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Hi Dave,
This is post from Ness, I'm travelling and writing from my tablet.
For some reason my name has been changed for someone elses, sorry about this I'll see about it when I get a real internet connection. (EDIT: I've assigned this post to me now)
For 3d to work you have updated direct x drivers installed.
Check the 3d menu options to make sure 5hat this is the case.
You might have to update.
Different widths shouldn't be a problem for regs.
To get manufacturing document just post your project on the forum.
If you would like an on depth revision use or stair file pro service.
All the best
Ness
November 28, 2014
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Hi Ness
Thank you for that! Nice touch on the rendering 
I've just re downloaded StairDesigner onto a new computer and started using it. It seems I don't have access to the 3D element any more.
Also I had two separate stair cases (Ground floor and 1st Floor) but the widths are not the same. Is there any issue with this from building regulation point of view?
When I've got both staircases designed what is the process for getting a cutting list?
Many thanks
David
October 4, 2012
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for posting your project.
I've had a quick look at your files and tweaked a bit the stair :
I've set the first flight and last flight parallel.
The error message was due to overlapping penetration of stringer into the posts.
Should be no problem leaving a waney edge on the steps, you just have to cut back the part that is housed into the strings. I've set up the risers grooved into the steps, you can groove with a router against a straight edge.
Have a look and tell me what you think.
All the best,
Ness
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David ffrenchNovember 28, 2014
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Dear Ness
Firstly this is a fantastic website, product and forum, I'm so glad to be able to ask such an experienced expert.
I'm building two flights of stair in my my own house which I've built. I've only built one stair before which was a double winder for a loft conversion (quite conventional), spent an enormous amount of time designing it in sketchup...I hadn't yet stumbled upon the wonder that is StairDesigner. This time round I'd like to push the limit of my ability as it is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I've got a few queries.
Materials: I've got 41mm thick solid oak for the treads and will use hardwood ply for the risers and strings. I plan to laminate the ply up in some areas and then carve it back which gives a very striking effect (see quirkycampers.co.uk/campervans/bella for an example). The plywood carving technique gives me quite a lot of flexibility and doesn't need to have every detail thought through in advance.
Model: I've made two models in SD which I've attached. Would you mind having a look? There is an error saying "stringboard intersect inside a newel post" but i'm not sure where to remedy this.
Waney edge: The oak I'm using has some beautiful grain and I'd like to maintain some element of the waney edge on the front of tread. Do you know if there is any regulation or rule on how much the front of a tread can deviate from a straight line? I'm thinking of following the grain up to maybe 40mm
I look forward to hearing from you
Kind regards
David
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