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April 22, 2026 - 11:38 am
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Hello Craig,

That’s good. Please let me know if you have any more questions.

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April 21, 2026 - 9:07 pm
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Hi Isaac,

Thats great, thanks for the help again. I’ve been using the scale templates to mark out and being careful that everything is lined up so hopefully it will go together well. 

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Craig

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April 21, 2026 - 12:45 pm
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Hi Craig,

Yes, in most cases you’ll cut the housings in the stringer at 90° (square to the face of the stringer). That keeps the machining straightforward and consistent.

For the winder section, you can then form the angles on the ends of the risers (and treads if needed) to suit the plan. So the housing stays square, and the component is what carries the angle.

That approach works well because it keeps the stringer stronger (no awkward angled housings removing extra material), and it’s much easier to machine accurately.

Just make sure you’re marking everything from the correct face and referencing your centreline/plan layout carefully. Small errors show up quickly in winders.

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April 20, 2026 - 10:12 pm
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Hi Isaac,

Thats great, I’ll do that, thanks.

Also, for the housings where the winder risers come in, do I just cut all the housings 90 degrees then cut the angles on the ends of the risers?

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Craig

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April 20, 2026 - 7:54 am
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Hi Craig,

For a 32 mm stringer, I’d recommend:

  • Tread/riser housing depth: around 10–12 mm
  • Wedge depth: around 6–8 mm (shallower than the housing)

That keeps enough material in the stringer while still giving a solid joint.

Your 4° pre-cut wedges will work fine. Just glue and don’t overdrive them.

And yes, if wedges weren’t enabled in StairDesigner, it won’t generate cutting files for them. That’s why there is no wedging details in your cutting files.

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April 17, 2026 - 2:12 pm
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Hi Isaac,

Thanks for the reply. I’ll reduce the housings in the stringer slightly then to maintain strength. What would you recommend for tread housing depth and then wedge depth?

Do you mean there are no files to cut the wedges themselves if they weren’t enabled? I have some pre-cut ones at 4 degrees I can use. The housings on the stringers look like they have the markings for the wedges.

 

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Craig

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April 17, 2026 - 12:56 pm
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Hi Craig,

18mm penetration into a 32mm stringer is quite deep. It leaves very little remaining material, so it’s generally on the risky side unless the stringer is well supported or engineered for it. In most standard timber stair details, you’d aim for shallower cuts to keep more strength in the stringer.

For the wedges, they should be shallower than the tread/riser housings. They only need to lock the joint in place, not match the full depth of the tread penetration. Keeping them shallow helps preserve the strength of the stringer. Note, there was not wedges enabled in your StairDesigner file.

If you’re unsure, it’s safer to reduce the penetration depth rather than push it to the limit.

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April 17, 2026 - 12:48 pm
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Hi Isaac,

I have one more question about the tread/riser penetration into the stringer. Is 18mm penetration too much for a 32mm stringer? And are the wedges recessed into the stringer the same depth as the treads or do they need to be more shallow? 

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April 16, 2026 - 2:39 pm
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Hi Isaac,

 

Ok great, thanks for the help!

 

Craig

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April 16, 2026 - 1:53 pm
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Hello Craig,

Yes that’s right, definitely include the groove at the top into the underside of the tread. For the bottom, it’s more common to sit the riser directly onto the tread below without a groove, just make sure it’s well glued and securely fixed.

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