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Stairway - straight with a few abnormalities
February 5, 2015
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Hi Per,

Here are your PDF files.

You’ll have to discard the steps 8 to 14 and just make them the same as 7.

You also have to smooth of the curve of the first step where the arcs meet. StairDesigner doesn’t do a great job of this.

Keep us updated on progress….

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February 4, 2015
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Hi Ness,

I am afraid I do need PDFs :-)

pb

February 3, 2015
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Hi Per Birger,

Here are the files for you stair .

Can you check them through and tell me if you need PDFs.

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February 2, 2015
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Lets go for this!

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February 2, 2015
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Hi Per Birger,

I was looking over your project and thought that just redrawing the steps parallel to the stair well would be enough to make the arrival wider.

In this case you would only need to modify the step lengths from the 7th steps up and make them all the same shape as the 7.

The hand rail will then have to be adjusted on site.

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The stringers can either be parallel or angled as suits you best.

This would require no extra drawing on my part.

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January 30, 2015
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H  Per  Birger,

Sorry to get back so late.

The new shape of the stair can not be done in StairDesigner and requires some work in CAD . 

I can either send you the StairDesigner files that you can modify your self or I can do it for you.

But it will take extra time that  I’ll need to ask you to pay for.

Our actual rate for this type of work would be 60€/hour. I would estimate around a couple of hours to set up the new drawings.

All the best,

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January 29, 2015
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Ness,

not meant to be offensive. Its just that I need to start the work on this stair. The floor is ready this week, so I need the stair. I thing your idea with the rail with a turn is good, but I didn’t want you to go totally beyond the services that I have purchased. I am very satisfied with your expertise and services – but I don’t want to take to much advantage of your willingness to help.

pb

January 26, 2015
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Hi again Ness, 

I think we should go for that. However, you dont have to rework the railing if this is timeconsuming. If the steps are shaped with a flair at first, then the top steps aligned with the stairwell, I think it is good. The railings are then less important. Then we do the rest in situ. I guess it is a possibility to fasten the lower top part of the railing to the stairwell. Keep in mind that i have to look into a solution for connecting the 2 nd floor railing with the stair railing too.

Pb

January 26, 2015
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Hi Per Birger,

It’s all a question of compromise between building complexity and style.

A good compromise could be to make the handrails flair up to where they meet the ceiling and then straighten them parallel to the stair well to maintain maximum width up to the first floor. In this way the strings can still be kept straight so very simple to make while the steps flair and the only real complication being the joint between the rails.

The best way to join the rails would be to put an angled newel post .

This design will not be easy to set up in StairDesigner and will require re-working the original in CAD.

What do you think?

All the best,

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January 26, 2015
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Ness, we have discussed the stair. We think this is diffecult. It seems we ran into a few challenges, when we decided to turn the stringers and create this great design. We love the design. We think we should return to the original width. Obviously the stair will have to fit in between the opening. The handrail may be included, but we imagine this could be worked at on site. 

Another solution might be to keep the top three steps the same size?

 

What is your opinion?

 

Pb

January 26, 2015
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Hi Per Birger,

The arrival of the stair is actually 1041mm between posts and 1570mm start.

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 This still makes for quite a wide and majestic stair, but of course it’s still possible to make the bottom narrower and the top wider.

The problem being that with less angled flair the actual flair becomes less visible and the stair tends to look like an ordinary straight stair.

Ness

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Hello Ness,

I appreciate you discovered this pretty obvious flaw. I will have to check out the meaning of this change. At the first glimpse I think the top steps are way to narrow. The stair has somewhat lost its extravagant qualities. As it is now it is a bit to much. I think this have to be solved by reducing the angle on the spread for the stringers back to the original 5 degrees. 

Pb

January 24, 2015
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Hi Per Birger,

Sorry to get back so late but been over busy with work to catch up on these last couple of days.

Looking at your project I’ve made a few modifications to fit better into the new space.

With the ceiling height and the stair well we were lacking head room so I’ve reduced the number of steps.

This also make the stair a bit shorter so more compact and a gain in space on the ground floor.

Although this increases the step height the step width is also increased so the general incline is good and the stair is still be easy to use.

To allow for sufficient space between the handrail and the ceiling I’ve also reduced slightly the stair width.

With wooden balusters I suggest not installing an intermediary post.

Please look at the proposed project and if it’s OK I’ll send you the working documents.

All the best,

Ness

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January 23, 2015
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hi,  Ness, I hope you are ok. we are looking forward to start building. At what timevdo youvthink we will have rhe drawing set?

pb

January 18, 2015
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Hi Per Birger,

Your boat is awesome.

I’d love to hear more about how you built it.

I’m away for a couple of days so I’ll work on your project when I get back Tuesday.

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January 17, 2015
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Hi Ness,

here is the boat, an aerial view. This is during the Tall Ship festival in Bergen last year.

http://www.schiffbilder.de/bil…..hafen.html

I am not finished with the interiors as yet. As I mentioned, Ive done a door and the stair, which you designed. Furthermore I am going to make a cupboard in the mid section under deck. I am looking for ideas :-)

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January 16, 2015
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Hi Ness,

Ive checked measurements. I have put them into a small table below;

Glasskaråsen      
       
Height (floor to floor) 281 cm  
Ceiling opening l 280 Cm  
Ceiling opening w 165 Cm (170 actually, but requires 2,5cm clearance on both sides)
Stair max l 340 Cm Preferably shorter if possible. Limited room at the lower end of stair to door. Stair needs to be easy to climb though)
Step t 6,2 Cm  
Ceiling to floor 41 Cm  

As for the railings, I think your suggested design is a possibility. However, Id like the original vertical wood design to be a part of the drawings. The reason is that I then have drawings for the wooden parts whatever design I decide for the railings.

I am looking forward to see what the manufacturing files will look like.

Regards

PB

January 6, 2015
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Hi Per Birger,

I see that you have had a busy holiday.

For the balusters glass or vertical wood is possible and only a question of taste.

Have you thought of using railing like this?

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 Before we process the manufacturing files I would like to check the head room.

Can you send me the exact size of the stair well and the thickness of the upper floor joists?

Love to see some pictures of the boat .

All the best,

Ness

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Ness,

we had a very nice celebration here in Norway. I mostly worked in my boat, sanding the stair I built this summer. Ive also put together a door prototype for the cabins. I had to move onboard the boat, because the weather was so bad in the shed. The whole lot is now ready for varnishing. I have promised I will put in a pic of the oak stairs when I have finished.

in my opinion the glass balusters worked out very well. I have pinpointed the fact that this is an solution enabling more light and a more roomy impression. My partner did not think this was easy to work out. Maybe we should just leave the balusters as they are – and that we either way is possible?

Thank you for narrowing the top steps.

I guess we are then ready to have the drawings to come out?

Regards

PB 

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Hello Per Birger,

Thanks for your wishes, we have had a busy but enjoyable Christmas holiday and I hope that your end of year festivities have also been good.

From what you say about your stair well the stair as designed  will fit into the well at 1650mm wide.

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It’s a pity about abandoning the glass balusters as I thought it gave a lighter and more original and modern feel to the stair than the traditional wooden bars.

What is the problem with the glass?

In the end how do you want to make the strings?

All the best,

Ness

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