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Jean Néron

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January 7, 2024 - 2:51 pm
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Thank you again Michel,

 

The build is planned to start in May. I will definitely take pictures and share them with you.  Your help has been greatly appreciated.smile

 

Cheers!

 

Jean.

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January 7, 2024 - 12:44 pm
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Hi Jean,

 

You can see the overall dimensions just by selecting the flights and see the lengths in the properties screen or double click on the outside of the stair to enter the editing mode. Hovering over the line will show the segment length. 

I attached the stairfile documents.

 

Best of luck with the build, and do not hesitate to keep us informed with pictures and a small testimonial that we would be happy to share on our website.

 

Regards

Michel 

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Hi Michel,

 

The 3D image and the 2D appear to be fine. Note that since I am only using the demo version of the tool I cannot view the overall dimensions but from what you have explained it sounds perfect. 

 

Please provide me with the plans for this design.

 

Thank you very much again for your assistance.

 

Jean.

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Hi Jean,

 

Ok, based on that information, I changed the following.

1) The length of the first flight is reduced to 52′.  The available length from the wall corner is 53′. The overlap of the stringboard with the first step is 3/4′, so the total is 52 3/4′. The stair will be set back from the corner 1/4′.

2) the newel position on the first flight is also set in line with the right stringboard.

3) flight 2 extended to 58 1/2′ so that the handrail runs flush against the second flight as it was protruding in the earlier version. It should be okay as you have 60′ available there.

4) the corner newel had due to point 3 had to be changed to a rectangular version to compensate for the added length on flight nr2. I also put the base of the newel on the floor as extra support for the stair.

5) Your available length for the third flight is also 60 inches. I set that length to 59 1/4′.  I removed the nose overhang on step 11 as this is in fact your floor and the flight is measured until the nose of that step.  Also, there is a riser on that step which is now flush with the step nose. I had to compensate the thickness of that riser with the flight length. so + 5/8′. This equals 59,825 inches. This leaves 0,175 playroom to install the stair. 

6) repositioned the top newels by 5/8′ to centre them on top of the floor level.

 

Attached is the file. Please recheck and confirm if this is ok to get the documents. 

 

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Michel 

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January 2, 2024 - 10:21 pm
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Hi Michel,

 

Sorry for all the missing information. Step 11 is the actual floor I will connect to (hardwood maple). The stairs go from the basement of the house (which is a concrete slab) up to the first floor which is 87 1/2″ above. From the basement the stair start at the corner of two walls which is constrained by a corridor (see new image). The intent is to replace an existing spiral metal staircase with a slightly improved U shape staircase.

Note: I was also able to open your file after I upgraded the software version from 7.16b to 7.16c and it looks very good to me.

Since I am a very novice user of this software, there has been many things that was done automatically by the software without my intervention and I wouldn’t know were to make these corrections. Your help with this is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

 

Jean.

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Hi Jean,

 

Ok, but the last step is still not defined. How are you going to apply it? Do you need a last step inside the stairwell, or do you not use the last step?  Step 11 is this an actual step, or does this represent the floor to connect to?

 

The nose of this last step is a reference for the flight length. So it is important to know if you need to include a last step in the flight length or not.

 

Also, the lateral recess you added on the stringboard connection with the newels was set too large, and your tenon connection disappeared. The value you set is the value it will get per side. I reduced it by half the value so that the tenon connection is now back. 

 

I also see that the handrail on the first flight is protruding into the stringboard of the upper flight. You might want to make some corrections there. 

 

Always verify your 3D visual as a lot of issues can be spotted there, which you do not always see in the technical 2D work area.

 

If you can not open my file please upgrade you software using this link 

https://drive.google.com/file/…..sp=sharing

 

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Michel 

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Hello Michel, 

Thank you for you comments. not being very proficient with the software there are many things that do not appear. To be clear, yes there will be newel post which I just added to the design (I figured out how to add them). As for the stringboard, these will not support the stairs since I will be installing stringers underneath the stairs anchored to the walls surrounding the staircase (walls on 3 sides) and a supporting structure for the stringers towards the center of the staircase. The stringboard will only be faceplates added over the stairs to cover the spacing at the wall.  I hope this clarifies the situation. I am uploading a revised design for you review. Thanks,smilesmile

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Hi Jean,

 

Is it intentional not to add a newel in the centre part of the stair? Also, the penetration value of the steps into the stringboards is too deep. The stringboards are only 1 inch thick so that I would advise a penetration of 5/16 or max 3/8. I suppose this is not self-supporting, as 1 inch would not be enough unless it gets fixed to a wall.

 

Also, the last step configuration is not done. Do you use a last landing step, or is the floor level considered the last step? 

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Can you clear up your intentions on this project?

 

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Michel 

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January 2, 2024 - 12:36 am
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Hello, attached is the Stair file and an image of the stairs I which to get the cut list and plans.

Thank you,

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