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June 10, 2022 - 10:38 pm
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Sounds good Michael.  Let’s do this!

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Scott

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June 10, 2022 - 3:50 pm
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Hi Scott,

 

this would become a tricky built to support the inner steps in the turn and does not give you much comfort maybe even less with all sharp winded steps on the inside. 

 

The door opens towards the stairs it should not be a problem. You can still build a stair fence on the exit. 

 

If ok I can provide you with the stairfile for the built

 

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Michel

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June 10, 2022 - 3:18 pm
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It wouldn’t help to exit on the D line would it?  I can exit on either C or D.  I tried it, but it didn’t seem to change anything.  It would actually give me the ability to put a railing by the door that way too.  Good for safety.

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June 10, 2022 - 3:14 pm
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Looks good.

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June 10, 2022 - 7:46 am
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Hi Scott,

 

better close then sorry laugh

 

Here is a plan view of the stair made according to the plan 

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Also, I added a landing step which was not included earlier. Let me know if it is ok. You can see it in the below 3D view. This is the step connecting the floor arrival

 

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Michel

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June 10, 2022 - 12:11 am
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I think if we just get close, I can adjust each step with the templates.  Cut paper or cardboard and make sure they fit.  I showed one problem that the measurements and angles cannot account for.  There are others.  You have already put in more time than this project is probably worth.  It is very much appreciated!  But we’re never going to get it perfect on paper.  That’s where my skills will have to come in to adjust and custom fit everything.  As long as I have the supports right, the rest will fall into place.

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June 9, 2022 - 8:30 pm
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Hi Scott,

 

ok, so you have enough room on the front of the stair to make it straight. So lengths A and E are variable. My question is about the rest of the geometry I send you as there are no straight angles, especially on the back left showing 88.42°. The left wall runs outwards from the start of the stair to the corner. 

 

It is a specific shape and if you make a stair to that shape you better be correct. I can just add some length to the right side of the stair start to make it straight but I need you to confirm if the rest of the drawing reflects the reality of the walls. If you can measure these angles please do so.

 

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June 9, 2022 - 4:36 pm
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I would say that the F beginning could easily be made parallel with the basement door wall.  A, B, C, D and E are concrete block walls and are not changeable, but F is just the beginning of the stair and on a landing that leaves about two feet to the basement door.  So it’s totally flexible.  I know that makes the landing a bit small, but couldn’t see any other way to do it.  We already cut and dug out the entire D, C, B area to get enough room.  The old stairs were a straight run from the A, F, E area,  No turn.  The door at the basement wall was short and you had three more steps inside the basement.  Head banger.  Dumb.  If there’s a better way, I’m open to anything short of an elevator. wink

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Hi Scott,

 

Based on the measurements you gave me it returned this geometry. Take a look if it fits with the reality and I also set the angle values on it 

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As you can see the front of the stair does not start in a straight line. The left side is angled inwards. The arrival is straight. Let me know if this is correct as it depends on where you start from when generating such plans. 

 

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Michel 

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Hi Scott,

 

Sorry for the delay. I will revert on it during the day

 

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Michel 

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