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I’m aware about the position of the new newel post in SD, was just a draft and at that time got stuck with the shape of the first step so left it for adjustments at a later stage.

I’ll check and revert (most likely after Easter).

Happy Easter!

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Hi Daniel 

I imported the stair in your drawing. Take a look at it and revert with comments. The position of the new newel compared to the old is  not the same. At least you have something to start with. 

Once you have the stair we can look at the handrails.

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Please find below couple of answers and additional details

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The best way is to show me the current situation and a drawing of what you want to achieve to get a better view

I’m attaching the current situation

Now to answer your questions

Start below floor level. This means that the first step height has to be changed. There is no direct way to do it and the easiest way is to add on the stringers in a cad program. My question is why do you need to start below floor level. A stair is usually set on top of the floor and joins to the next floor level

There are basically two reasons: 1. the existing stairs are fixed in the same way, on the wooden beams and not on the floor. This approach gives you the possibility to change the floor easier (in my view); 2. The floor is actually formed from an uderfloor of OSB3 (22mm) with solid oak parquet glued on it. I don’t believe the OSB3 offers sufficient strength to fix the stairs on in and would rather prefer not to drill through parquet. 

As long as I have a strong support uncovered already (the wooden beams) I don’t see why not making use of them for better structural support.

First step shape. You can go into the step shaping mode by selecting the step and right click. Then select step-shaping

daniel-step1.jpg

Thanks for pointing out. Missed that option

Last riser. This is because you did not add a landing step. Again right click and select add a landing.

I didn’t add a landing because I’m actually not landing on the floor (see above about underfloor connections). The floor is installed after the stairs…

I attached the stair with a first step-shape and a landing for you to look at

I see your point. I guess it implies to rethink and potentially change my strategy

About the handrails. Provide me the situation and a drawing of how you want it to be so I am able to answer you in the correct way

I need to close the opening from the attic’s floor with a horizontal handrail. Currently the opening is much bigger than needed, waiting for the stair calculations to determine how much needs to remain open to allow sufficient headspace. Disregarding the size of the opening a solution must be found and it will start from the end newel post

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Hi Daniel

The best way is to show me the current situation and a drawing of what you want to achieve to get a better view

Now to answer your questions

Start below floor level. This means that the first step height has to be changed. There is no direct way to do it and the easiest way is to add on the stringers in a cad program. My question is why do you need to start below floor level. A stair is usually set on top of the floor and joins to the next floor level

First step shape. You can go into the step shaping mode by selecting the step and right click. Then select step-shaping

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Last riser. This is because you did not add a landing step. Again right click and select add a landing.

I attached the stair with a first step-shape and a landing for you to look at

About the handrails. Provide me the situation and a drawing of how you want it to be so I am able to answer you in the correct way

regards

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Hi Daniel

I will look into this today evening and revert

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I want to build new stairs from the 1st floor to the attic. The aim is to keep the style of the existing stairs (ground to 1st floor) and, because the new one will continue the old one, to integrate the new elements with the existing ones (newel post, stringboards, handrail, etc.

The floors are built on wooden beams and the end of stringboards from the existing stairs is fixed on a beam (not floor). I intend to make a similar connection for the new stairs, which implies to start from below floor level. The end will also be on a wooden beam.

Couple of things I’m trying to figure out how to set in SD:

– start from below floor level

– first step “surrounding” the old newel post (or a new one mounted in the same place, if the old requires replacement) – something like in the attached picture

– handrail fixed on a side of the old newel post, ideally with a curve at the beginning

– horizontal handrail from the attic, closing the side of the opening

– last riser seems to be placed outside of the opening, inside the beam practically (nose is on the edge)

I’m attaching a first draft

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