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May 18, 2014
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Sorry, Christopher….
Dont know where I got Michael from, Probably a quote I was working on!!
Mark
May 18, 2014
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Hi Michael
Welcome to Polyboard and the forum. This looks like a fun project.
As cabinetmakers I would make the following observations based on your design.
I would be inclined to break this down into a number of cabinets, not only from the point of view that you are beyond the 8ft standard sheet length on the cabinet width but also because unless you are privilaged to have a large workshop and the space to assemble it will be quite unwieldy to work on. We have large workshop space and we would still break this down.
Also, think ahead to manufacturing this. If you make a mistake on a large panel, you will lose the entire panel, but working on smaller panels will allow you the benefit of hindsight.
I attach a brief cabinet design that may help you with this and you can tinker with.
Ness will tell you I am obsessed with making life easier and I think you may have over complicated yourself with trying to unbox and add recesses to what is quite a simple design that will lend itself to a much easier manufacture if sectionalised.
Your drawers will not allow internals as you have a back panel attached to a side by the unboxing process.
I hope this helps and gives you an insight into the ease of this program.
Mark
Ness,
I forgot to mention, in my previous post, that the drawers are still not being assembled (i.e. the box behind the drawer face is not being displayed.
Can you let me know when I could be doing incorrectly? Thanks!
Christopher
Hi Ness!
As previously mentioned, I played around and saw if I could incorporate the extended plinth and top. The attached file (Home Bar v5.0.pb-cab) shows you what I’ve accomplished.
You will notice that I pretty much got it done with the exception of getting the surrounding perimeter of the top boxed in. Could you help me with that?
I’ve also attached pictures of the 3D view (one of front and one of the back).
Christopher
Hi Ness!
Sorry for the confusion… That photo was simply something to start from. What I am doing will be very much simpler! No extended plinths (in fact, I hadn’t even noticed that before), no extended top, and definitely no turned columns. Also, there aren’t going to be any set-back arched doors or any of the other fancy stuff! Remember, this is my very first project and there would be no possible way of me doing that! 
But now that you’ve pointed those out… I just may play around with the build to see what I can incorporate (very simply); but for now, assume the following.
My Home Bar is going to be exactly like the posted PolyBoard-file I uploaded (Home Bar v4.0) with the following additions:
– The rear-facing cabinet door (furthest from the rounded end). This is the biggest issue at the moment, but I can simply make the modification if it cannot be included in the build plan (all cutting plans will still be on par… I would simply need to add one other cut to the back panel and add fittings to create the door).
– I will also be adding “assembled” framing (1/2″ x 3″ on top and 1/2″ x 2″ on the sides and bottom) for each of the four divided sections (including the back door) of the back panel… There will not be any curved arches. Note: In this build (Home Bar v4.0), I haven’t performed the “surface-split” yet, but they will be at each of the uprights.
– Inside these frames, I will also be adding 1/2″ x 3/4″ crown moulding around inner perimeter of framed area to transition from frame to back panel (the back door exempted as I will need something to grab onto to open the door).
– Also, the issue with the drawers not being assembled in PolyBoard still has me perplexed…
Other than that, the build plan is 90% complete. I just need those few things corrected/added.
Christopher
October 4, 2012
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Hi Christopher,
I’m having a problem understanding exactly the final design you want to build.
Looking at the photos of the model you showed us it seems that the paneled arched doors are set back from the upper bar element and the lower plinth and that there are turned columns at each corner. this quite a complex design and is not reflected in the Polyboard project you have posted.
To get the exact design of the photo requires that the project be built in several modules rather than one block.
It would also probably be better to make 2 modules to have the door on the back anyway.
As well as this the bowed end will make this even more complicated and it might be better to make the bowed element as a separate module too.
The transition from the flat to bowed also requires some thinking to get a smooth design. How are you thinking of building the bowed end?
The photos are nice but are very complex to build and even more so with the bowed end.
Are you thinking of making curved rails on the doors panels ?
If so how are you going to build these parts?
Are you looking to design like the photos or are you aiming at something simpler and easier to build.
Can you send me a sketch of what you are trying to achieve and we’ll look at the best way to get there with Polyboard .
All the best,
Ness
Hi Stefan/Ness,
79 Pounds equates to $141 CAD for the CabinetFile Pro service. Then there’s also the $18 CAD per month for the full membership. That is getting to be way more than I was expecting to have to spend.
I thought that by becoming a full member, I would have “Detailed advice on the most complex of support issues” (as per your advertisement on the web site)?
None-the-less, attached is my 4th attempt at planning the bar. This time I free shaped the whole unit to try and get rid of the issue pertaining to having a single upright at the cut-out, but the same problem still exists. Why is it not possible to have the upright “merge” with the side (it is actually designated as a “back” to complete the plinth) such the only one (1) panel is needed?
Also, I still cannot seem to assemble the drawers (only the drawer faces are visible in 3D view).
I am also waiting to receive some advice on whether or not I can have a door at the back… Or should I simply make two (2) separate cabinets (one inverse to the other, adding more material)? When I free-formed the bar and extended the door area on the back by a mere 1/4″ and set that area as frontage, I was able to create a door… But it is very frustrating that I cannot do it when I have a straight back. Why does a quarter inch make all of the difference? Of course, I do not want that 1/4″ offset…
In any case, Manufacturing methods have not been applied yet. Also, I have not added any decorative accents (as I can do that later). Of course, all of the panels for the curve are now as they should be… No odd cutting required.
Please let me know what you would do to correct the above mentioned issues. Thanks,
Christopher
November 8, 2013
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Thanks for signing up as a Full member, Christopher. I think Ness mentioned you’re going to need the CabinetFile Pro service due to the complexity of the project too. As soon as you order it, post your latest design, and any further issues, suggestions etc and Ness can get started on it with you.
Cheers, Stefan
Okay… I took the plunge. I’m a now a Full Member!
Looking forward to building my project with you guys!
Christopher
Thanks Ness!
I am seriously thinking of getting the monthly membership, stay tuned… I simply want to try to get as much accomplished on my own before I do so. Additionally, I will not be starting anything until I have gotten your blessing!
That said, stay tuned for v4.0 of my design. I have no issues with starting over and learning from my mistakes. As they say, practice makes perfect!
Also, I want to personally thank you for being patient with me. This is why I will be considering the monthly membership (something I do not easily allow myself to do via the internet).
Now back to trying it again…
Cheers!
Christopher
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